Question #1:
I have been a Christian for many years. I have enjoyed my intimate time with God. I served with passion and love for at least decades. My pastor left the state I lived in and I seem to wander looking for a church home, but never became stable. I constantly fight for the battle of my mind. When I shared with the leader of my last church, it appeared to have brushed it off (APPEARED). I have moved to a new state and know I need fellowship with other Christians. At this time I'm visiting churches to seek where I fit and of course to be led by the spirit of God. How does a Christian get restored in the body of Christ especially when most churches appears to be run like a business and no one really has time to go after the one sheep?
Response #1:
Good to make your acquaintance.
We find ourselves in the final Church era, that of
Laodicea (see the
link), and lukewarmness is therefore the hallmark of our time. There are
very few churches in the entire country of which I am aware which
actually teach the Bible as their reason for being, and many of them do
not do so accurately – which explains in part why this ministry,
Ichthys.
You are certainly welcome here online any time (Ichthys is my church).
Here are a few links which deal with the issue you mentioned:
Maintaining a Sound Christian Offense in our Spiritual Warfare
Who Controls our Thoughts and Emotions?
The Battlefield Within: Fighting the inner spiritual Struggle.
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #2:
Hi Dr.,
You are welcome Sir. Let me thank you for the opportunity to translate
your written text into audio. Before this all came about I was asking
the Lord for something to do within His Church...and here we are. I
don’t mind the time and effort that goes into creating these audio files
(I actually enjoy it). I’m just happy the Lord has given me this work to
do and I thank Him for it and your ministry as well. I get a great deal
out of reading and listening to the text during the conversion process
as well as listening to the finished product when I’m driving around the
City, it’s a win/win for me. If these audio files make it more
convenient for a fellow believer to gain knowledge of the Word, even
better. However, I must say, I find the majority of “Christians” that I
come into contact with are not interested in what God has to say at all.
From my experience most probably wouldn’t accept sound teaching if it
was as easy as digitally downloading it to their brain straight from
Heaven itself. But, that’s the way it is, and His Word tells us to
expect this, so I am not discouraged at all. It’s going to be time for
the Church to wake up soon, I trust God will have His prepared remnant
strategically placed in just right places at just the right time.
I have been busy working both of my jobs and working on our house as
well. We have been here for over 20 years and in the last year I’ve
replaced the roof, the windows, the front porch, graded and reseeded the
front yard and drain field, repaired/replaced foundation drain tile, and
put up about 15 cord of rounds to be split for firewood. The thing is
I’m not even half way thru my honey-doo list yet and I suspect it’s
getting longer! Oh well, somebody’s gotta do it, and I’m somebody. My
day job is ok, the powers that be are leaving me alone for now, and I’m
thankful for that. My part-time job is ok too. I don’t mind the work and
it helps to pay the bills. Business has been steady and we’re
thankful for that.
We are both in pretty good health at the moment. My back and shoulders
hurt from simply working too much and for that there seems to be no end!
Such is life. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I’m looking
forward to my resurrected body my friend.
How are you Dr.?
Thanks for Ichthys and all you do. Keeping you in prayer.
Rev.22:20
Response #2:
You are a busy man!
I hear what you are saying too about lack of interest. It's either there
or it isn't, and there is really nothing any of us can do to insert it
in those who don't care. Sort of like salvation in that regard too. It's
all about free will, and this life sorts out those who are positive from
those who are negative, as well as those who are red hot from those who
are lukewarm. It's the perfect plan in every respect.
I'm looking forward to the next body too! And looking forward to
cheering you on for all your good work, my friend! Greatly appreciated.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #3:
Hi Dr.,
So far I haven’t heard anything from either family member since our last
discussion at Thanksgiving. I make it a point not to hound people. I
give them whatever truth is pertinent at the time and the way to
discover more on their own if they are interested, then wait to see if
they come back and bring anything up in conversation. Sadly, almost none
ever come back with a greater desire for the truth, and I fear that may
be the case with my family as well. You said it yourself once that the
desire for truth is “either is there or it isn’t” and I’ve found that in
the majority of cases it is not. It’s perplexing because like your own
situation where you thought all you had to do was make excellent
teaching available to people and they would flock to it, the opposite is
true; most choose to ignore it. However, being a perpetual student since
choosing to follow Christ I’ve always had a desire to to get to the
bottom of it all, even though I am far from that, it is my desire. So it
leaves me scratching my head at times, but it does not leave me
hopeless, where there is life there is hope. The Lords will be done!
Got you in prayer on your contract and your sabbatical. I imagine a paid
year off from your day job could really be productive as well as restful
you, I hope you get it.
Until next time, all the best!
Rev.22:20
Response #3:
Thanks for the update, my friend!
As to your question/good wishes, I did get approved for the sabbatical,
but it's only for a semester, not for a year, and requires an aggressive
research proposal to land, and that has to followed through on. However,
I decided not to take it because they refused to let me teach my upper
level students via independent study while the sabbatical was going on
and weren't going to hire anyone else to do it either, and there's no
one else to pick up the slack after my dear Christian colleague got
sacked. So I decided not to leave my students in the lurch. On the
positive side, I have what is essentially an "all teaching" contract as
a result now, so no need to do much research has resulted in more time
for this ministry.
On family and other believers, your experience parallels mine and that
of most serious believers I know. I've learned to be ever so grateful
for positive believers like yourself!
It may seem lonely at times, being tight with the Lord and His truth
when few others are truly interested, but there is no better place to be
in this whole wide wicked world.
Your grateful friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #4:
Dr. Luginbill,
Your emails are very encouraging and helpful; thanks for everything!
PS: I had some church persons seem to acknowledge the lack of teaching
in any deep way to me. And when they said people can't be expected to
remember or identify passages in the Bible, I just didn't know what to
say. Because I was thinking 'uh, yes you really should.' Even my non
believing family member told me that if you are spending decades on a
text you ought to have parts of it memorized. Else what are you doing in
that class/service? I was talking to one Catholic friend (who is a sweet
and hardworking lady), and she took the mindset that it isn't a big deal
for believers not to know basic things about the Bible. And I was
telling her that if I were an English teacher and you had been in my
class for decades, but couldn't explain basic things about the text we
were going over, you should get your money back from me. I don't like
Shakespeare much but you would know the basic details of Macbeth over a
single semester (more like 6-9 weeks). I wouldn't pick some random line
"by the prickling of our thumbs, something wicked this way comes" and
then spend all year expounding on some personal story of how "We have
all had pricking thumbs at some point in our lives haven't we? We can
understand how the witches are feeling right now. And something evil
coming their way? Well here is another personal story that kinda sorta
is related to that. Class dismissed." Because my test would be something
like 'explain what is happening in this scene and how it is
similar/different from an earlier related scene in the text. What can we
deduce about the character of the witches?' Why would we have stronger
standards for secular text than the Word of God? And I would fail
students if they couldn't tell me basic things like that there are
witches and Macbeth in this scene (I mean I would first fail myself as
the teacher).
Response #4:
As you can guess, I certainly agree with you! The lack of knowledge
about the Bible and, even more critical, the lack of epignosis
(knowledge believed) about the true doctrines of the Bible that obtains
in Laodicea today is distressing. But it is the lukewarm lack of
interest that is responsible. It's comical to hear the excuses people
give for not being bothered to give attention to the truth – or at least
it would be if it were not so tragic. Once the Tribulation begins, we
are going to see many of the lukewarm "catch fire" out of necessity.
It's our job to be ready to help them once they finally do wake up.
Your English teacher example is spot on and really exposes the true
problem marvelously.
Keep fighting the good fight, my friend.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #5:
I feel the push and desire to make my few decades or so count for something. Whether the tribulation date is around 2026, or half a century from now, or later, I think a lot of what you have written is very useful and true. (In sincerely hope that saying that doesn't cause offense). There's so much good content on your site (history, culture, historiography, patient going-back-and-forth arguments over all sorts of topics), and the emails you sent me are very perceptive and sound like they are from someone who has a whole bunch of perspectives going on at once. I have a list of 40 books you recommended that I hope to get to eventually (as I work through Greek). And I really can't wait to see the Lord one day with you and the rest of the Judeo-Christian family.
Response #5:
I appreciate your good words and your enthusiasm for the truth in
particular. That is the way to grow, to walk closer to the Lord, and to
come into your own ministry in time. That is the way to win
the three crowns of Christian reward. I look forward to cheering you
on that great day, my friend!
Keep up the good fight for Jesus Christ our dear Savior,
Bob L.
Question #6:
New blog post on atheism = mental dyslexia
http://godsphilosopher.blogspot.com/2017/12/mental-dyslexia.html
Response #6:
It's good to see you continuing with your ministry, my friend. I am sure
that there is a need for someone as conversant with these concepts as
yourself who has both the intellectual "bones" and the faith in Christ
necessary to refute complicated lies.
The only thing I would add to your theory is that in my reading of
scripture everything is about choice. A person who is dyslexic in the
physical sense has not made a choice to misinterpret words; hardness of
heart, which functions the same way it is true, comes to those who
deliberately blot God and the truth out of their hearts.
Your friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #7:
Hi Bob,
Atheist and agnostics have posed this question to me, which I find
emotionally very troubling. They say that a serial killer can kill many
victims, and because the victims did not hear the gospel, they will burn
in Hell, while the serial killer himself, because he hears the gospel,
can go into Heaven. They then say that this is a clear injustice.
If you want to know my personal opinion, it’s that this kind of question
is very similar to the Sadducee’s question of the man and the wife, and
reflects that the person does not know or understand the power of God.
Sincerely,
Response #7:
Excellent!
That was exactly the parallel that occurred to me too. It's very easy
for unbelievers to come up with "situations" they believe are impossible
for God to untangle and with no scruples about the fact that these
situations have never ever have happened or ever will (1Jn.3:15), and
they even if they did God is much "bigger" than any problem their small
minds can devise. But God is not mocked. I will add to that in exploding
the fiction of the Sadducees in addition to explaining how they were
wrong our Lord also pointed out to them that they were absolutely wrong
in no uncertain terms:
"Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God?"
Mark 12:24 NKJV
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #8:
Hi Bob,
One of the more irritating atheists claims is that God is like Santa
Claus: children need a wish fulfillment figure to give them things they
want and a punishment figure to prevent bad behaviors. But we adults
don’t need rewards or punishments to be good, so God is just Santa for
adults. So they claim.
So is believing in God really the same as having an imaginary friend?
Maybe, if believing in a fat man in a red suit who delivers presents in
a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer to every child in the world is
exactly equivalent to believing in a God who created the universe from
nothing, brought life from non-life, and grounds objective moral values
and duties. If so, then yes, they’re exactly the same.
But if believing in God is so ridiculous and prima facie ridiculous that
you don’t even need to give proof of his incoherence, do you know what’s
even more ridiculous? Giving lectures against his existence. Having
debates about it. Trolling blogs and internet chatrooms. Writing
popular-level books promoting unbelief. Remember: according to the
atheist God is so incoherent that his incoherence doesn’t even need to
be proven, just pointed out by ridicule. Yet I don’t see anyone penning
The Santa Delusion or The Tooth Fairy Is Not Great. In fact, it may be
the atheist who is looking for emotional satisfaction and wish
fulfillment: a universe where he is the master of his own fate and
captain of his own ship. In that case, it is atheism that needs to be
identified as the king fantasy belief among fantasy beliefs.
“Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.”
(John 3:20)
Response #8:
Some other important distinctions:
God exists, Santa does not.
No one will be called into judgment by Santa, but all will stand before
the Lord – even atheists.
While Santa does not exist even if we pretend he does, God exists even
if some fools want to pretend He doesn't.
Everyone – eventually even children – know that Santa does not exist
(and some children know that early on or right way); everyone,
eventually even children, knows in their heart of hearts that God does
exist and that He is righteous (and some children know that early on or
right way). And even atheists at some point in the past came to
know this truth in their heart of hearts . . . before they deliberately
blotted it out of their hearts and hardened their hearts (and that was a
choice).
Therefore this proverb is true of them:
Even when a fool walks along the way, he lacks wisdom, and he shows everyone that he is a fool.
Ecclesiastes 10:3 NKJV
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #9:
Hi Bob,
I am also amazed by an argument commonly raised by atheists: "it is
wrong to evangelize me, because I cannot choose what I believe, rather,
I am forced to believe what the evidence says." If atheists really
believed this, then why do atheists mock? The entire point of mocking is
to make the object of ridicule a shame and thereby persuade onlookers
not to believe the Christian. And mocking does this without introducing
new evidence. Therefore atheists who believe in mocking believe that
people choose what they believe, a contradiction to their earlier
statement.
Sincerely,
Response #9:
Very good point!
In Jesus,
Bob L.
Question #10:
Hi Bob,
New blog post refuting The "but I can't help what I believe!" argument.
http://godsphilosopher.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-but-i-cant-help-what-i-believe.html
Sincerely,
Response #10:
You certainly have a lot on your plate! Hope the job and the classes are
going well. I'm keeping you in my prayers for these.
Nice blog post too, by the way. This life is all about choice, and that
is what faith is – so I sometimes call it "free will faith". We have the
image of God and that gives us the ability to deem anything right or
wrong, true of false – a godlike, god-given ability that really is
amazing, and appalling too, when one considers the heights of arrogance
to which people ascend using it the wrong way.
Their mouths lay claim to heaven, and their tongues take possession of the earth.
Psalm 73:9 NIVA discerning person keeps wisdom in view, but a fool’s eyes wander to the ends of the earth.
Proverbs 17:24 NIV
They send their minds ranging to the far ends of the universe, little considering that they are "creatures of a day", tiny little bubbles of flesh and blood gone in a moment.
The voice said, “Cry out!”
And he said, “What shall I cry?”
“All flesh is grass,
And all its loveliness is like the flower of the field.
The grass withers, the flower fades,
Because the breath of the LORD blows upon it;
Surely the people are grass.
The grass withers, the flower fades,
But the word of our God stands forever.”
Isaiah 40:6-8 NKJV
But we have chosen to believe and accept the truth of the Word – which
"stands forever" – and thus we shall stand forever too, with the Lord in
the New Jerusalem.
All good work for the Lord is rewarded. Everything else is dust.
Your friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #11:
This is also why God isn’t like the existence of Harry Potter: everyone knows that Harry Potter is ultimate false, and the existence of Harry Potter is inconsequential because we all got along pretty well before J. K. Rowling invented him. However, justice is absolutely not inconsequential, and it’s not at all obvious that we all “got along” before society “instilled” in us a sense of justice: even babies are more likely to cheer when they see someone who worked hard succeed in their task. This proves that justice is something that is very innate to the spirits of human beings. It is innate to the spirits of human beings because our spirits reflect the One who made them.
Response #11:
Yes, everything in the world cries out that there is a God (Ps.19:1ff.; Rom.1:20-21), and that is written on everyone's heart as well (Eccl.3:11).
So we have it from scripture that all atheists are intellectually dishonest liars (however they may posture and pose).
Question #12:
My only concern for atheists is that they become honest with themselves. I've outright told several atheists, "If you keep going down this path... you're gonna have a bad time."
Response #12:
You're a good man.
It takes fortitude to work some "fields" for the Lord, the ones where
the fruits seem to come seldom and grudgingly – but He has a purpose in
working them all and reward comes in proportion to one's labor, effort
that the Lord sees even if man does not.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #13:
Hello again Mr Luginbill.
So I have another question, one which I have been wanting to ask for
many months but never did. Now before I ask anything I try to make sure
it has not been asked on your site before so as to save time. It may
have been asked although I have not seen it on your site yet, and I have
been reading on your site for many months now. My question regards
motives for getting saved. I first heard this from a person from a Bible
study group that one of my family members used to attend. She then told
me what he said. The guy said that if the only/or main reason you got
saved was to escape hell then your not saved. He basically meant that
even if you truly believed in Christ and put your faith in him that that
would get negated because of what he considered wrong motives, aka fear
of going to hell. What do you believe regarding this? Is it correct? I
can't say I agree because to me faith is faith. "Whoever shall call upon
the name of the Lord shall be saved". Almost everyone in that Bible
study approached him afterwards and tried to tell him otherwise but he
stood by what he said. It wasn't too long after that someone who I used
to work with also stated this belief. He said the exact same thing. He
also added something regarding sin but I'm not sure how he put it. Maybe
something like "you need to admit to God that you are a dirty rotten
sinner and that as an unbeliever you were 'dissing' God so to speak by
living in sin and darkness." Now I know that we need to know that we are
sinners in need of a savior. If a person doesn't know they are a sinner
and that is what is keeping them from God how can they get saved? If
they don't know what they need saving from then how can they get saved?
But he makes it sound like you have to say certain things to get saved.
I believe as you do in that a person is saved by putting their faith in
the person and work of Jesus Christ to save them from their sins. That
faith is accepting His gracious offer of salvation. I looked this
question up elsewhere and the answer given was very confusing/unclear
and not straightforward. I stick only to your site now.
Response #13:
You are growing in spiritual discernment – good for you! This sermon you report is part and parcel of the silliness that attempts to pass for "teaching" in our era of Laodicea. All of the verses in scripture which encourage us to come to the Lord are absolute – they don't put conditions on His mercy and grace. That is the whole point of His mercy and grace. Christ already died for all sins – for every sin every human being has ever committed or ever will. Adding to salvation, however one does it, runs the risk of making being saved a works-based effort, but we are saved strictly by God's grace, not by our own works (Eph.2:8-9). We have nothing to offer Him; He gives us everything merely through our willingness to accept it – that is what "by grace through faith" means.
And the Spirit and the bride say "Come!"
And let the one who hears say, "Come!"
And let the one who is thirsty come;
let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost.
Revelation 22:17
Nothing about conditions or motivations or any such thing here.
In fact, of course, the reality of death, sin and judgment – things any
rational person ought to fear, it seems to me – are precisely
the motives the Lord gives to us in His grace in order to get us to turn
away from the world and seek Him as the only solution to sin and death.
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #14:
Very much appreciated. I can't tell you how much of a blessing your
ministry has been. I know I keep saying it but I just cant get over it.
Regarding certain truths I used to despair thinking I would never get
the answers. But God was not going to let me starve, especially after I
dedicated so much time and effort searching. He most certainly intends
for us to find His truth by "searching the scriptures". He truly does
reward those who diligently seek Him. Almost gave up thinking I had to
wait to get to heaven to find the answers but then that's when He led me
to your site. I felt so peaceful after that. I slept extremely well
after having not been able to for months because my heart and mind were
settled. Your hard work in ministry will be so richly rewarded when you
enter the kingdom one day. I pray that your ministry will continue to go
well! I praise the Lord for it!
In Christ
Response #14:
Thanks so much for your encouraging comments (Ps.115:1)!
I'll endeavor to be worthy of my "press clippings".
Your friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #15:
Thank you for the commentary. It cleared up the statement about the Man
of Sin having no desire for women, or marriage.
In another commentary, the professor goes on to say that it refers to
the Antichrist's placing women in the role of men, that is, "working
outside of the home and working in the military." He says the woman's
"place is in the home is being wives and mothers,
Response #15:
Good to make your acquaintance.
It is amazing how widespread the abuse of scripture is. The Bible is a
place we should go to be taught and instructing in the truth, not to
find ammunition for our own esoteric opinions – that always leads to
error.
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #16:
Howdy Bob!
It's me, the one whose family are involved in the The Way. I wanted to
touch base with you and say "Hello." Brother, It's been a long time, (I
hope you haven't forgotten me....lol). I trust all is well with you. One
of the best things about the passing of all this time is that we are so
much closer to Jesus's return! May the Spirit of all grace and
supplication open you up so wide to receive all the mercy and grace that
He has for you! The grace of our God is so overwhelming and I pray that
the both of us never get over being so grateful for that grace. May we
cherish it all the more as we see that great day approaching! Bob, may
the Lord continue to cause His face to shine upon you so good that you
keep falling in love with Him over and over again. May the Lord also
continue to anoint you in your ministry so that you will point and lead
MANY into His saving loving arms as well as encouraging and exhorting
fellow believers in the faith.
God bless you abundantly my brother.
Response #16:
Good to hear from you. How are you? Seems to me that the last time we
spoke you still had some health issues. Also, I thought I'd remembered
that there was some movement in extricating at least part of your
family. Sorry to hear that they are still "involved". I do keep you and
them in prayer.
I'm not doing too badly. There has been a "war on Classics" at the
university but I have survived with my scalp so far.
Beautiful fall weather here in Loo-a-vul.
Wishing you a good week ahead, my friend!
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #17:
Hi Bob,
I appreciate very much you responding to me. I've learned and am
learning to take one step and one day at a time. Years back, I thought
getting older would be a breeze....what a delusion!
Ranging from neurogenic myopathy to diabetes to pancreatitis to a tumor
in my neck to an infection on my foot. I didn't share this to get
sympathy, but rather to declare that God's infinite grace has brought me
safe thus far and His grace will lead me home! His grace is truly
amazing! To God be all the glory and honor and praise! Bob, I can't
thank you enough for standing with me in praying for my family. The
battle is still raging, but I have no intentions of quitting on praying
for them. Thanks again sticking it out with me!
I am very thankful that our Lord and Savior caused our "e-mail paths" to
cross.
Your brother in Christ,
Response #17:
You have a wonderful witness and a wonderful spirit! A fine testimony
for the Lord.
Yes, I teach the Greek and Latin language classes at U of L – pretty
much on my own since the budget has melted down, but I'm hoping things
will look up in time to come.
Thanks so much for your prayers, my friend! I'm keeping you and your
family in mine as well as you know.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #18:
Combating the "science is self-correcting" fallacy:
http://godsphilosopher.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-science-is-self-correcting-fallacy.html
Response #18:
Very nice.
So in the opinion of atheistic science, the Bible is imperfect because
it's perfect, but scientific theory is perfect because it's imperfect.
Hard to argue with that!
In Jesus,
Bob L.
Question #19:
Thank for your response Bob,
By the way how are you doing? Are you still at the college. Are you
teaching your favorite classes still?
I was also wondering if you know of anyone close to our area that you
have connections (friends) with. It would be nice to affiliate with good
Christian friends. We know a lot of people but there isn't really anyone
we can fellowship with. They all are into there organized religions and
try to pull us in but its not where we want to be. A lot of friends
don't seem to understand and either shun us because we won't go their
way or for some reason are uncomfortable being around us.
We aren't really the kind to talk much of our beliefs unless asked and
then most of the time we don't say much. I'm not against anyone that
feels like they want to go to church; it's just that I have never liked
the idea for myself since I was a small child. I would always day dream
of making bread and eating the dough every Sunday at church (3 hrs) when
my parents took me. I really never listened to any of it. When I was
forced or brainwashed to get baptized I kinda thought it was just going
through the motions. None of it felt right in my heart. None of it made
sense. But you just go with it because of your parents. I was the first
out of very many grandchildren to marry outside of the LDS church.
My family was not happy to say the least but no one was to rule my life
and my mom always tells everyone my first words when I was a baby ("I do
it myself!").
I'm so thankful for what God has shown us and to not be a part of the
cult. Even though I don't know or remember a lot of the Mormon doctrines
I do know what a stranglehold that religion has on its people and its
like they are being held captive and some don't even realize it. They
actually truly think that they are doing exactly what Jesus wants and
they will even tell you they are the only ones going to heaven and your
getting left behind if you don't join. Its really sad. I can't wait for
Jesus to come back. I'm looking forward to the Tribulation if I'm still
here. I know its going to be hard but its going to be worth it. We have
been reading your book on the Tribulation. It's been wonderful. I'm sure
we will have questions as we get more into it but for now we are in
sync.
Have wonderful day!!
Your friend in Jesus Christ
Response #19:
And thank you for your powerful testimony. It's a great example of how a
person who knows what is false and is unwilling to pretend it is
otherwise and who also wants the truth will be led to the truth in the
end. Good for you!
Happy to answer your questions any time, my friend.
Yes, I'll probably be at U of L until they take me out feet first.
Semester started today. I'm still teaching my classes.
Keeping you and your family in my prayers daily.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #20:
Is it a sin to be a member of the Free & Accepted Mason?
Please enlighten me.
Response #20:
I know next to nothing about Masons from any first hand experience (I'm vaguely aware of different "rites" / sects and that there are great differences between them, I believe).
I have known good people who were conversant with this group and characterized it as something like the Kiwanis (of course, I know many good people who are Roman Catholic – whose salvation I doubt).
I will say that I have had correspondents write me very upset with this group and going on about its satanic connections. I'm sure I don't know about that from personal experience. So I'll give you a couple of links here that relate to some of the conversations I have posted on this subject:
Hope you are doing well, my friend!
Do feel free to write back to me about any of this.
Keeping you in my prayers daily.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #21:
Good morning Bob. More hints on the cracks in the JW foundation at
Bethel. I understand the Society is only publishing a few tracts now
yearly.
The Watchtower Society of Jehovah’s Witnesses is in serious trouble.
Membership is declining because of many issues but one of the most
serious is public news of child sexual abuse in Australia and the UK.
Kingdom Halls, their equivalent of a local church, are being closed,
sold and the congregations assigned to other Halls. The Society’s HQ in
Brooklyn has been sold to of all people Jared Kushner and a new HQ is
being built in rural NY. Donations are way down, the door to door work
is lagging, the numbers of baptisms and membership are way down.
Therefore, the Society has chosen to stop publication of their annual
Yearbook where these statistics are published. Can we say coverup?
Response #21:
It's welcome news, my friend, and an encouragement I am sure to those
like yourself who have done battle with this particular brand of false
teaching for so many years. However, I do fear that it is being replaced
by other nonsense faster than it is being eroded – and of course during
the soon to come Tribulation the "mother of all false teaching" will
arise. So this is an encouragement (we know that God destroys all lies
in the end), but we don't want to let our guard down either.
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #22:
I understand the Society grossly over-valued their real estate holdings in Brooklyn. The buildings hadn't been upgraded with respect to heating, air conditioning, windows, insulation, etc. Their new headquarters in Wallkill, NY must be draining their coffers.
Response #22:
Would that all false teaching systems were in the same boat!
Question #23:
Good morning Bob. I'm currently reading Mystery of the Ages by
Herbert W. Armstrong. I know his church foundered after his death,
splintered into two or three sects. I'm only half-way through the book,
have to reserve judgment.
To me, of all the televangelists, Sid Roth is the most egregious. Every
week he hosts a new guest selling a book, or books, and dvds for a
"donation" of $50 plus shipping and handling.
Everyone seems to return from Heaven with the same message – Sell books!
Sell dvds! Sell cds! Sell! Sell! Sell!
Thanks to Sid Roth, I've discovered the secret of going to Heaven –
drugs! Recently, a four year old boy named Colton Burpo had an emergency
appendectomy and when he came out of the anesthetic, he claimed Jesus
had given him a tour of Heaven! Sound familiar? Kevin Zadai had a dental
procedure and Jesus gave him the tour while he was unconscious. Jim
Woodford overdosed and got the tour. Who knew it was that simple?
In the 1930s, Ron Hubbard had dental surgery and when he came out of the
anesthetic he claimed the secrets of the universe had been revealed to
him. He then wrote Dianetics which has sold more than 20 million
copies and spawned a "religion" worth billions!
When will the scales fall from Sid Roth's eyes? When will he heed
Scripture? No one knows the end of days, only the Father knows. Equally
important, Scripture states we are not meant to know!
Matthew 24:24King James Version (KJV)
24 For there shall arise false Christ's, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The following is from the CARM website;
Are prophets still needed today? The office of prophet is one that is no longer necessary and has ceased within the Church because:
The foundation of the Church was laid long ago.
And
God’s revealed Word was completed with the close of the New Testament canon.
The Church’s foundation does not need to be laid again and there is no need for further revelation beyond what God has provided for us in His complete Word, the Bible. Today we are blessed to have Scripture as our complete and final authority in all things(2 Tim. 3:16-17). If someone now claims to have received a "special revelation", we must test it against Scripture. If it is contrary to the Word of God, then it must be rejected. If it is consistent with Scripture, then we have to ask why an “extra” word was necessary if its truth is already contained in the Bible. So while we always need men who are willing to proclaim boldly the Word of God as contained in Scripture (as pastors, teachers, and evangelists), there is no need for the office of “prophet” as it existed in the New Testament.
Respectfully
Response #23:
Excellent comments!
I'll plan to post this the next time the "cult theme" comes up.
Yours in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #24:
Good morning Bob. I found four major flaws with the Jehovah's Witnesses
- the poor character of their founder Pastor Russell, their history of
false prophecies, their denial of the Trinity and the scholastic
dishonesty of their New World Translation.
Mr. Armstrong shares three of these four flaws - false prophecies,
denial of the Trinity and errors in translation.
In Chapter 3 of Mystery of the Ages, Mr. Armstrong wrote "Can
human life on earth survive past this present generation?" This was
written in 1985 so the answer is yes, we did survive. The reason I was
drawn to this question is because it reminded me of the Jehovah's
Witnesses assertion on the cover of the May 15, 1984 Watchtower that the
1914 generation will not pass away, which proved false.
Mr. Armstrong concludes Chapter 4 of Mystery of the Ages with
"These are the very last days of Satan's evil world. God's utopian
civilization will be started with the present generation." It hasn't
started and the generation of 1985 has given way to another generation.
Mr. Armstrong states that "Melchisedec and Jesus Christ are one and the
same Person." and the WTBTS believes the Archangel Michael is Jesus
Christ.
Then I found Mr. Armstrong erred in his interpretation of Scripture.
Emails below
Good afternoon Rabbi Schwartz. An encounter with a former schoolmate and co-worker who is now an Elder in the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, aka Jehovah's Witnesses, lead me to read the Bible for the first time. Early on I understood there are controversies surrounding translation. I purchased a copy of The Tanahk because I felt it would have the greatest fidelity to the original Hebrew texts.
In his book Mystery of the Ages, Herbert W. Armstrong emphatically stated the word "heaven" found in Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 2:4 are incorrect, he insists the original Hebrew word "shamayim" is plural in Psalm 33:6 and Isaiah 42:5 in the Tanahk. What governs the distinction?
For clarification, Mr. Armstrong insists the word should be plural in Genesis indicating God created the earth and the universe simultaneously.
Respectfully
Response #24:
Very nice!
Yes, Genesis 1:1 is speaking of original, ex nihilo creation, and
"heavens" is plural, referring not only to the atmosphere but to the
rest of the universe beyond the earth as well. This distinction is not a
"big deal" as long as this fact is understood by reading the English
translation. After all, even changing singular (e.g., KJV) to plural
(e.g., NKJV) hasn't stopped the majority of supposedly Bible-believing
evangelicals from denying that there is a gap between verse one and
verse two – which has to be the case if verse one is original creation
(which it very clearly is).
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #25:
Thanks Bob, I wasn't sure why Mr. Armstrong was so emphatic that God
created the earth and the universe simultaneously?
I've heard that the Masons invoke the name Melchisedec in their rituals,
and Tubal-cain when in distress. Makes me wonder if Mr. Armstrong was
involved with the Masons like Pastor Russell?
Response #25:
I don't know enough about it to have an opinion.
The amount of tripe out there – and the sources of tripe – is seemingly
endless (and with the internet more and more so day by day). All a
very clear indication of
the Laodicean time of lukewarmness in which we live, and of the
rapidly approaching advent of the beast and his
unifying false religion.
(11) Christ Himself appointed some of us apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers (12) in order to prepare all of His holy people for their own ministry work, that the entire body of Christ might thus be built up, (13) until we all reach that unifying [goal] of belief in and full-knowledge of the Son of God, that each of us might be a perfect person, that is, that we might attain to that standard of maturity of the fullness of Christ; (14) that we may no longer be immature, swept off-course and carried headlong by every breeze of so-called teaching that emanates from the trickery of men in their readiness to do anything to cunningly work their deceit, (15) but rather that we may, by embracing the truth in love, grow up in all respects with Christ, who is the head of the Church, as our model. (16) In this way, the entire body of the Church, fit and joined together by Him through the sinews He powerfully supplies to each and every part, works out its own growth for the building up of itself in love.
Ephesians 4:11-16
Your friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #26:
Bob, an acquaintance whose father was a theologian told me this;
If you worked in a bank, you could try and detect counterfeit money in
one of two ways;
1) Learn every piece of phony money out there that was in circulation,
or
2) Know the genuine money so well that anything that was
different would have to be counterfeit.
Response #26:
It's a great analogy!
The only thing I would say about it is that unlike currency, knowing
everything about the Bible and its truth is a more difficult and
long-term proposition on the one hand. Also, in the Church, we sometimes
have to do not only with counterfeiters (cults and out-and-out false
teachers), but also with those whose "currency" is of some worth on some
issues and worthless on others: lukewarm or baby believers
resembling check writers whose balance sometimes doesn't cover the
amount indicated.
Still, there is no substitute for knowing the truth. That is what sets
us free from all lies.
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #27:
Hi again Bob, just after a JW at my front door asked me this question a
visitor arrived so they had to leave, I was glad they did because they
asked this question..."So. ISA 9:6 : If "Mighty God makes Jesus almighty
God, does " Eternal Father" make the Son the Father?
I often try to explain to JW's that Jesus had to become human because no
other could take on the job/role of removing our sin, and so he lowered
Himself in humility and became like us but without sin. I know you have
a lot on this subject but have you ever been asked this question?
regards
Response #27:
The question you were asked says so much. It shows that these people are
only willing to use scripture for their own means and have no interest
in the Bible itself. After all, there are so many clear passages that
teach Christ's divinity (see the link), anyone who was genuinely
interested in finding out the truth would realize that if Isaiah 9:6 did
seem to them to be contrary to those other passage, that it was an
outlier and must admit of some other explanation – precisely your
conclusion, the Christian conclusion – and the truth. Nice job in
reinforcing this with solid doctrinal reasons for why the truth is as it
is as well.
In fact, Isaiah 9:6 is the victim of much un-artful, one might even say
faulty translation. The Hebrew actually says 'abhiy 'adh (אֲבִי
עַד), a poetic phrase (this is poetry in Hebrew) which means "the One
who is father/begetter of eternity". Christ created the universe in
accord with the plan of God (Jn.1:1-3; Col.1:16), and He is the One who
made eternity possible for you and me and us all through His death in
our place. So this is a fitting time for our dear Lord Jesus. As the One
entrusted with carrying out the plan of God, it is our Lord's role to
win the victory of the cross (which He has done) and bring in / bring
about all of the prophesied blessings of the kingdom to come. That is
why the last book of the Bible is "the Revelation / Revealing of Jesus
Christ", because when He returns as the King, the last phase of history
will begin and so will eternity thereafter.
To put this in linguistic terms, most translations take the second noun
in the construct phrase as an adjective; but it is a noun and the
construct relationship here is to be understood as generating a
predicate (as in my translation above). Hebrew construct phrases are
very flexible (which is why prepositional phrases with "of" in both
testaments are both ubiquitous and requiring of care in translation);
add to that the poetic context and it is not surprising that so many
have had trouble with this one. Okay, I know that was "dense"; what is
means is "my translation given above and my interpretation is correct
based on the Hebrew".
Yours in our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Bob L.
Question #28:
Many thanks Bob, because I know a divorced woman who had no need for God
because she was into drugs etc, but when she had nobody to comfort her
she told me that the JW's helped her a lot and the man she says helped
her is a JW, so because of his fatherly help and concern she will not
listen to anyone else and actually goes around door to door now, but my
main concern is for her two small children, and I think were they better
off before she became one of them or are they better off now, she has
the devil in both paths waiting for them.
I have been looking at your Christology pages last night and this
morning and yes there are plenty scripture proofs, but then I came
across in -I think Luke- where it says that those not in God will not
hear His words and truth. What you said is correct they don't want to
see the truth.
Also when Jesus told them He was coming on clouds and the high priest
spat the dummy, He was actually telling them He was God, since the high
priest would have known the ancient knowledge that the Cloud Rider was
God. It pays to read all the bible doesn't it
many thanks again.
Response #28:
You're very welcome.
This is a classic cult technique, namely, to reach out to those in
emotional need . . . so as to make them dependent on the cult. Once that
"relationship" is sealed, then the cult does all in its power to smash
all prior relationships so the victim will in future have no place else
to turn.
As for children, however, God looks after them. I have seen / known of
numerous cases of children from good environments turning out bad and
from bad environments turning out good. Everyone has free will, and the
Lord will not allow any child who really wants to come to Him to be
denied the truth and the opportunity. Sometimes, in fact, the negative
cult environment causes the good-hearted child to react against it and
come to Him sooner and surer. But it is still not amiss to pray for
these children.
Yes – reading the Bible is not only good but essential for any Christian
who wants to grow spiritually and to be kept spiritually safe (see the
link: "Read your Bible!"). And here
are some other links:
Yours in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #29:
Hi again Bob...when I was at a roman catholic school as a child and
young adult, I never felt good about praying to Mary, I always felt
better going to the Lord Himself. I liked to go into their churches when
no one else was there, so when I would go to the local play ground and
pass my church I would go in their and say my prayers. Now years later I
know that he was guiding me for sure.
Now the enemy is emailing me and saying to me " On John 14:9 In what way
does Jesus mean "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father"?
Did he mean he was the Father? Scripturally that is wrong. By the
insisted upon Trinitarian definition of the Son not being the Father, it
is wrong.
many thanks as always Bob, I have to say your extensive work on your
site is much appreciated.
Response #29:
If Jesus were the Father, why would Jesus pray to Himself:
He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”
Matthew 26:39 NIV
Clearly, "you" and "me" above are not both the same as "I".
On the objection, the Trinity are three in person, but one in essence;
therefore they are closer than any two or three human beings beyond what
we can ever imagine. There is no difference of opinion between them and
never a disagreement in all eternity past, present and future – but it
would be hard for the two most like-minded human beings in history to
get through a single day without even seeing at least something
differently (so the difference is profound).
Therefore if you want to know what the Father is like, you already know
if you pay attention to what Jesus is like.
Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"
John 14:9 NKJV
Thanks for your wonderful testimony!
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #30:
Thank you Bob, I also remembered that as a past catholic we use to call
the Trinity God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit/Ghost.
But your reply was brilliant.
best wishes.
Response #30:
Thanks!
Write any time, my friend.
In Jesus our dear Lord.
Bob L.
Question #31:
Hi Bob,
I recently had a dream that contained a written message that said that
everyone who teaches that Jesus was not divine, and other heresies, and
that the miracles of the Old Testament are possible for believers today
are all false teachers.
And false teachers will not go unpunished. God is going to give justice
for us.
"They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever." (Jude 1:13)
Response #31:
As I often remark, when our dreams comport with the truth, it's a sign
that we are spending a good deal of time with the truth – and that is
all to the good in every way!
After all, your conclusions are clearly correct, dream of no dream.
Your friend in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #32:
Hi Bob,
I decided that today was a very unique opportunity that I couldn't
afford to miss so I emailed this false teacher.
Response #32:
My advice is what the Lord said, "Let the dead bury their own dead". The way I see your incipient ministry is along the lines of "save others by snatching them from the fire" (Jude 1:23), helping them escape from false teaching through effective refutation. False teachers themselves will never listen; one only endangers oneself by engaging with them.
So be aware of this, that in the last days there will be difficult times. For [in those times] there will be men (i.e., false teachers; cf. chap.2) concerned only for themselves, devoted to money, egotistic, arrogant, blasphemous, not concerned for their parents, ungrateful, irreverent, implacable, slanderers, uninhibited, savage, despising the good, betrayers, impetuous, megalomaniacal, devotees of pleasure rather than lovers of God, possessing an [outward] appearance of godliness, but [in reality] having rejected its [true] power. From such men turn away. Of this sort are those who [even in our own day] worm their way into households and take captive the [spiritually] weak who are loaded down with sins, leading them astray with various lusts, [victims who consequently,] though always learning, are never able to accept the truth. In the same way that [Pharaoh's court magicians] Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, for their minds have been corrupted and they have been found wanting concerning the faith. But they will not keep on striding forward forever. Their folly will become obvious to all, just as in the case of those two.
2nd Timothy 3:1-9
Yours in Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #33:
My email was written with a very heavy dose of irony. Irony is a very
effective way of "burning" someone who is stubborn while robbing them of
a way to make a witty retort in return.
What you write is true about false teachers. I never enjoy being "mean"
when warning others, but fear is sometimes very important in getting a
person to think twice about their final destination. It is no great
solace to get all of your cravings and "itches" scratched on Earth but
only to then lose everything in the next. Much wiser to wait for God to
scratch those itches for you if you really want them.
Response #33:
I understand and I agree with all of what you say – I just think it is a waste of time (and somewhat dangerous) to say it to him.
There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
1st John 5:16b
Defending someone else from his false teaching is another
matter, and it's good of you to persevere in this ministry of doing so.
Just looking out for your spiritual welfare.
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.
Question #34:
The "but you don't have proof that there AREN'T any more miraculous
healings." I get this from charismatics a lot. Here’s what I tell them.
In frequentist statistics, there’s something called the “null
hypothesis,” and it’s the “default” hypothesis that everything is
normal. You can’t actually prove that everything is normal, but that’s
the default presumption unless good evidence comes in that something
unusual has happened. We use frequentist reasoning in the criminal
justice system when we set a standard of “innocent until proven guilty.”
It’s impossible to prove innocent, so innocence is presumed unless good
evidence of guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Response #34:
It's a good point. I'm happy to have people healed. I'm happy to have
God do it miraculously. But to me the really critical thing is to avoid
calling something which is NOT an actual instance of this (i.e., if the
person wasn't really healed or wasn't really sick in the first place but
merely engaging in a charade) a "miracle". That is a lie. Either God did
something or He did not. I know He can do anything. Unfortunately, I
also know that human beings are capable of telling the most outrageous
lies and justifying them, even convincing themselves of the truth of
them – even Christians in "a good cause". That is the thing to be
avoided like the plague. So the place where I am most virulently opposed
to such people is whenever they want to label skepticism – not of God
and His power but of specific occurrences – a "lack of faith".
In Jesus Christ our dear Lord and Savior,
Bob L.